tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4465950730953186851.post1452577877976391540..comments2024-03-23T03:04:13.374-07:00Comments on Space and Politics: Wikileaks and the Global Geography of CyberwarfareGastón Gordillohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11524310935707885766noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4465950730953186851.post-52728859987633276022010-12-07T10:09:17.351-08:002010-12-07T10:09:17.351-08:00This article is close to what I'd written too....This article is close to what <a href="http://saskboy.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/its-a-cyber-spy-war/" rel="nofollow">I'd written</a> too. Great minds thinking alike? ;-)Saskboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13258259356749068135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4465950730953186851.post-42298676448920262322010-12-06T17:30:31.413-08:002010-12-06T17:30:31.413-08:00Another great post.
Perhaps of interest: http://w...Another great post.<br /><br />Perhaps of interest: <a href="http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-1008/msg00037.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-1008/msg00037.html</a><br /><br />(From the authors of: <a href="http://fourteen.fibreculturejournal.org/fcj-096-the-digital-given-10-web-2-0-theses/" rel="nofollow">http://fourteen.fibreculturejournal.org/fcj-096-the-digital-given-10-web-2-0-theses/</a>)<br /><br />Via <a href="http://stuck.josswinn.org/ten-theses-on-wikileaks" rel="nofollow">http://stuck.josswinn.org/ten-theses-on-wikileaks</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4465950730953186851.post-69503572477836928962010-12-06T12:53:00.607-08:002010-12-06T12:53:00.607-08:00This whole episode has been fascinating for so man...This whole episode has been fascinating for so many reasons it's hard to know where to begin -- not least for the global/geographic elements you highlight here.<br /><br />One, as you note this affair has highlighted just how fragile and arbitrary free speech on the web is... the concentration of infrastructure in a country that is so hostile to dissent (that its companies rush to cover merely to avoid criticism or extra-legal threats) has been exposed. And given that in the current web environment there may be only a dozen or so web hosts that are robust enough to withstand the DDos attacks being sent at Wikileaks, I find it hard to believe some of the more techno-utopian pronouncements about power and information we've been hearing the past week.<br /><br />One of the excerpts from a cable that caught my eye referred to the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/05/world/asia/05wikileaks-china.html" rel="nofollow">Chinese attitude to the Internet</a>:<br /><br /><i>The message delivered by the office, the person said, was that “in the past, a lot of officials worried that the Web could not be controlled.”</i><br /><br /><i>“But through the Google incident and other increased controls and surveillance, like real-name registration, they reached a conclusion: the Web is fundamentally controllable,” the person said.</i><br /><br />In a <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/julian-assange-wikileaks" rel="nofollow">Guardian Q&A</a> that was posted last week, Assange suggested that Wikileaks had hosted with Amazon and other US-based providers was strategic, "deliberately placing some of our servers in jurisdictions that we suspected suffered a free speech deficit in order to separate rhetoric from reality"... but then again, there have been a rash of <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/wikileaks-domain/" rel="nofollow">surprisingly amateurish IT decisions</a> that make me wonder if Assange covering some questionable judgment with bravado.<br /><br />That said, I hadn't really read Assange's written stuff closely until this past week, and am surprised <a href="http://zunguzungu.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/julian-assange-and-the-computer-conspiracy-%E2%80%9Cto-destroy-this-invisible-government%E2%80%9D/#" rel="nofollow">how interesting</a> I find it... I thought his comments on the limits of blog culture were especially provocative, I hope to write a post on that myself. <br /><br />It seems counter-intuitive that the most notorious act of online information activism yet would lead me to the conclusion that the web is an even less free place than I thought... but so far that's where I am headed. Then again, the fun part of this whole saga is how it keeps on surprising us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4465950730953186851.post-51325818266711492812010-12-06T12:51:34.270-08:002010-12-06T12:51:34.270-08:00This whole episode has been fascinating for so man...This whole episode has been fascinating for so many reasons it's hard to know where to begin -- not least for the global/geographic elements you highlight here.<br /><br />One, as you note this affair has highlighted just how fragile and arbitrary free speech on the web is... the concentration of infrastructure in a country that is so hostile to dissent (that its companies rush to cover merely to avoid criticism or extra-legal threats) has been exposed. And given that in the current web environment there may be only a dozen or so web hosts that are robust enough to withstand the DDos attacks being sent at Wikileaks, I find it hard to believe some of the more techno-utopian pronouncements about power and information we've been hearing the past week.<br /><br />One of the excerpts from a cable that caught my eye referred to the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/05/world/asia/05wikileaks-china.html" rel="nofollow">Chinese attitude to the Internet</a>:<br /><br /><i>The message delivered by the office, the person said, was that “in the past, a lot of officials worried that the Web could not be controlled.”</i><br /><br /><i>“But through the Google incident and other increased controls and surveillance, like real-name registration, they reached a conclusion: the Web is fundamentally controllable,” the person said.</i><br /><br />In a <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/julian-assange-wikileaks" rel="nofollow">Guardian Q&A</a> that was posted last week, Assange suggested that Wikileaks had hosted with Amazon and other US-based providers was strategic, "deliberately placing some of our servers in jurisdictions that we suspected suffered a free speech deficit in order to separate rhetoric from reality"... but then again, there have been a rash of <a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/wikileaks-domain/" rel="nofollow">surprisingly amateurish IT decisions</a> that make me wonder if Assange covering some questionable judgment with bravado.<br /><br />That said, I hadn't really read Assange's written stuff closely until this past week, and am surprised <a href="http://zunguzungu.wordpress.com/2010/11/29/julian-assange-and-the-computer-conspiracy-%E2%80%9Cto-destroy-this-invisible-government%E2%80%9D/#" rel="nofollow">how interesting</a> I find it... I thought his comments on the limits of blog culture were especially provocative, I hope to write a post on that myself. <br /><br />It seems counter-intuitive that the most notorious act of online information activism yet would lead me to the conclusion that the web is an even less free place than I thought... but so far that's where I am headed. Then again, the fun part of this whole saga is how it keeps on surprising us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4465950730953186851.post-72564768116786827252010-12-05T09:59:15.377-08:002010-12-05T09:59:15.377-08:00Las redes virtuales parecieran constituirse cada v...Las redes virtuales parecieran constituirse cada vez más en la continuidad de las luchas geográficas pero sobre otros medios... <br />Hoy en P-12 Mario Wainfeld recuerda ironicamente al cono del silencio del super agente 86 y otras ficciones cinematográficas y literarias...<br />En suma lo que este episodio de ciberguerra reafirma es la naturaleza narrativa de las disputas por el sentido.<br />Lo dicho y lo no dicho, lo publicable y lo que es menester que quede oculto y en esto se juega tambien el maridaje de los organismos de inteligencia (con sus desinteligencias) y las corporaciones de medios que seleccionan y editorializan aquello que debía quedar oculto. <br />Advierto que a fuerza de circunstancias este espacio bloguero que creaste para ensayar acerca del vínculo entre espacio y política se deslizó del análisis de los cuerpos en la calle, a los cuerpos del agro y ahora se ancla momentaneamente en los cuerpos ocultos visibilizados en formato digital. <br />Aparecen ahora cuerpos de bandoleros clandestinizados como el de Bin Laden o el de Julian Assange que circulan como imágenes de la amenaza al orden o a su seguridad. Despiertan admiración anarquista como antes lo hiciera el de Bailoreto o el del Che. Cuerpos de otros tiempos en los que la conquista de territorios y la construcción de la leyenda se jugaba en combates cuerpo a cuerpo.<br />Guerrillas posmodernas, propias de tiempos en que predominan los dispositivos de simulacro. Ya no desplegadas en la selva de tupida foresta, sino en esta selva discursivamente sobreinformada que sin embargo requiere de soportes físicos para sostener este otro espacio, este territorio tambien en disputa entre los Estados y entre los aparatos políticos y las organizaciones civiles que confrotan o burlan los discursos hegemónicos.Hernánhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12118130557180189043noreply@blogger.com